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Issues Installing Security Update KB5087539 on Server 2025
We have a virtual machine that is having issues installing 2026-05 Security Update KB508739. I am running Server 2025 version 24H2 build 26100.4061. The update will download and start installing up until 93% then after a little bit we get install error -…
Windows for business | Windows Server | Devices and deployment | Install Windows updates, features, or roles
asked 2026-05-15T19:04:52.8666667+00:00
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McMeekin, Robert I. (IT Director)
0
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answered 2026-05-15T20:39:36.9066667+00:00
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Domic Vo
21,150
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Independent Advisor
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KB5087537 breaks DFS Namespace on Windows Server 2016 — RPC server unavailable
Title: KB5087537 breaks DFS Namespace on Windows Server 2016 — RPC server unavailable Body: After installing KB5087537 (2026-05 Cumulative Update for Windows Server 2016) on 14 May 2026, DFS Namespace stopped working with the…
Windows for business | Windows Server | Devices and deployment | Install Windows updates, features, or roles
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WSUS synchronisation issue
Hello, I try to build a new WSUS server today and it's not working during the step "Connect to upstram server". I'm using Microsoft Update and the wizzard is stucked here since more than 30 min... When I go to the logs on the…
Windows for business | Windows Server | Devices and deployment | Install Windows updates, features, or roles
asked 2026-05-13T15:44:04.91+00:00
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matteu31
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answered 2026-05-14T02:43:11.71+00:00
Brian Huynh
2,880
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windows server 2022 updates fails on VM in OCI
hello, i provisioned a windows 2022 server VM in OCI for a pipeline project; it has connectivity via a proxy, but for windows updates i added a local group policy to add an url for download; this url is also used in other tenancies; the problem is that…
Windows for business | Windows Server | Devices and deployment | Install Windows updates, features, or roles
asked 2026-05-11T17:41:37.1466667+00:00
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Adrian Neacsu
20
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commented 2026-05-12T09:57:42.13+00:00
Adrian Neacsu
20
Reputation points
2 answers
KB5091575 - Any Major Risk?
KB5091575 - Any Major Risk? Released on April 19, 2026, this is an "emergency" fix specifically designed to correct the severe issues caused by KB5082142.
Windows for business | Windows Server | Devices and deployment | Install Windows updates, features, or roles
asked 2026-05-05T14:06:50.0266667+00:00
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Nawab Jan Shaikh
0
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edited an answer 2026-05-05T14:24:18.61+00:00
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Harry Phan
19,485
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Independent Advisor
2 answers
2022 2026-04 CU (KB5082142) April any known issue
2022 2026-04 CU (KB5082142) April any known issue
Windows for business | Windows Server | Devices and deployment | Install Windows updates, features, or roles
asked 2026-05-04T11:56:40.7966667+00:00
Nawab Jan Shaikh
0
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answered 2026-05-04T12:42:17.34+00:00
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HLBui
5,780
Reputation points
Independent Advisor
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Anyone hit reboot loops on domain controllers after recent patches?
I’ve been seeing reports about domain controllers getting stuck in reboot loops after recent updates, which is honestly pretty concerning. Has anyone experienced this in production? What’s your process for validating updates on critical servers before…
Windows for business | Windows Server | Devices and deployment | Install Windows updates, features, or roles
asked 2026-04-28T06:58:55.2233333+00:00
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Yuso Faisyahhhhh
60
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edited an answer 2026-04-28T07:23:48.4033333+00:00
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Tracy Le
8,150
Reputation points
Independent Advisor
1 answer
Windows 10 USB device COM port keeps changing from COM4 randomly
Hi, I’m working in a small industrial setup on Windows 10 where a USB-to-serial device must always enumerate as COM4 for a legacy control application we rely on in production. The annoying part is that even though we keep plugging it into the same…
Windows for business | Windows Server | Devices and deployment | Install Windows updates, features, or roles
asked 2026-04-28T03:03:24.02+00:00
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Fedda306 Anadi
0
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answered 2026-04-28T03:29:29.4933333+00:00
Tracy Le
8,150
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2 answers
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Installation errors during the security patch update KB5078752
Title Windows Server 2019 VM fails to boot (BSOD 0x50) after installing KB5078752 – CBS shows 0x80070002 errors Question I am attempting to install the security update KB5078752 on a Windows Server 2019 Datacenter VM (OS Build 17763.7922). However,…
Windows for business | Windows Server | Devices and deployment | Install Windows updates, features, or roles
asked 2026-04-26T03:07:15.0266667+00:00
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Dhanushree R
20
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accepted 2026-04-26T04:14:04.0533333+00:00
Dhanushree R
20
Reputation points
2 answers
Patch not installing
Windows for business | Windows Server | Devices and deployment | Install Windows updates, features, or roles
asked 2026-04-16T13:31:15.73+00:00
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Tamilarasi S
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answered 2026-04-26T00:54:54.07+00:00
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Jason Nguyen Tran
17,675
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Intel E810 iSCSI Adapter Not Visible in Windows Server 2022
Hi all, I am facing an issue with an iSCSI adapter (Intel E810) on a Windows Server 2022 Phyiscal machine (PowerEdge R760xs Server). The adapter is confirmed to be: Visible and healthy in the server hardware management interface (IDARC) Properly…
Windows for business | Windows Server | Devices and deployment | Install Windows updates, features, or roles
asked 2026-04-01T18:45:46.5366667+00:00
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Mouath Almobaslat
0
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recommended 2026-04-25T20:12:01.1366667+00:00
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Alexandra Tanasescu
0
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Moderator
2 answers
0x0c00002e2 windows server 2025 domain controller KB5082063
It is not possible to access the domain server with the administrator account, either remotely or from VMware. Currently, everything is working fine for non-administrator users, but I'm afraid to restart the server. Is there a way to fix this?
Windows for business | Windows Server | Devices and deployment | Install Windows updates, features, or roles
asked 2026-04-23T14:01:16.4366667+00:00
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Sertus Admin
0
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edited an answer 2026-04-23T16:53:32.6566667+00:00
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Tan Vu
2,575
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Independent Advisor
1 answer
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How to handle local admin rights for users in modern Windows environments?
I am trying to reduce the number of users with local admin privileges without breaking productivity. Are you using tools like LAPS, privilege elevation tools, or just strict policy enforcement?
Windows for business | Windows Server | Devices and deployment | Install Windows updates, features, or roles
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Can't install WMIC on Windows Server 2019 Datacenter
I'm having trouble installing WMIC on Windows Server 2019 Datacenter. I've run the command in CMD and PowerShell, but it still hasn't worked. I also looked under Optional Features but couldn't find it. I
Windows for business | Windows Server | Devices and deployment | Install Windows updates, features, or roles
asked 2026-04-22T09:32:20.6333333+00:00
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Haza Hafiz Riski
85
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answered 2026-04-23T09:17:44.68+00:00
Tracy Le
8,150
Reputation points
Independent Advisor
3 answers
Patches were not reflect in window server 2016
Hello Patches were not reflect in window server 2016 os level..where it report to concern WSUS Server There is no firewall block and no port block issue
Windows for business | Windows Server | Devices and deployment | Install Windows updates, features, or roles
asked 2026-04-23T00:51:00.5333333+00:00
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srikanta kumar sahoo
0
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answered 2026-04-23T06:27:26.5333333+00:00
Brian Huynh
2,880
Reputation points Microsoft External Staff
Moderator
2 answers
Problem to install patch on Windows server 2019
There were some problems installing updates, but we'll try again later. If you keep seeing this and want to search the web or contact support for information, this may help: (0x800f081f)
Windows for business | Windows Server | Devices and deployment | Install Windows updates, features, or roles
asked 2026-04-21T13:48:11+00:00
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Kenneth Andersson
0
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answered 2026-04-21T14:23:13.5466667+00:00
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Quinnie Quoc
10,560
Reputation points
Independent Advisor
3 answers
April 2026 Windows Update patch on Windows Server Domain Controller enter reboot loops
I've installed the April 2026 Windows Updates on one of my Windows Server 2022 Domain Controllers and the system will no longer boot up properly, after several restarts a blue troubleshooting screen appears.
Windows for business | Windows Server | Devices and deployment | Install Windows updates, features, or roles
asked 2026-04-17T17:59:08.8966667+00:00
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Chris McLeod
0
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commented 2026-04-20T14:51:39.5633333+00:00
Chris McLeod
0
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2 answers
Server with IPP printing protocol isse after Upgrade
Hello, I have issue with windows server 2016 using IPP printing protocol. After upgrade to windows 2022 No printing jobs works on this server. Is there any simple way to enable use of IPP protocol on 2022 or migrate newer one
Windows for business | Windows Server | Devices and deployment | Install Windows updates, features, or roles
asked 2026-04-20T12:33:56.4333333+00:00
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Marcin Godlewski
0
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answered 2026-04-20T13:19:20.0933333+00:00
Tan Vu
2,575
Reputation points
Independent Advisor
2 answers
What is the mitigation of this issue April patch puts Windows domain controllers into reboot loops — third known issue from KB5082063 is affecting Windows Server 2016 through 2025
What is the mitigation of this issue_ "After installing the April 2026 Windows security update (KB5082063) and rebooting, domain controllers (DCs) in environments with multiple domains in the forest that use Privileged Access Management (PAM), might…
Windows for business | Windows Server | Devices and deployment | Install Windows updates, features, or roles
asked 2026-04-18T02:10:41.06+00:00
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Pankaj Kumar Keserwani
0
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answered 2026-04-18T03:05:55.1266667+00:00
Harry Phan
19,485
Reputation points
Independent Advisor
3 answers
Windows Server 2025 fail to update KB5082063 Patches
I am facing issue to update KB5082063 cumulative update Patches for Windows 2025 on Dell R360 Server I have try : Clear out superseded components: Dism /Online /Cleanup-Image /StartComponentCleanup Download standalone update package and install Clear…
Windows for business | Windows Server | Devices and deployment | Install Windows updates, features, or roles
asked 2026-04-17T06:36:02.4433333+00:00
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Kheng Soon Yeo
0
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commented 2026-04-17T17:45:29.2933333+00:00
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Serge Caron
25
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